I disagree.
In past debates i have had throughout my time on the internet, i have always confronted the person on there specific behaviour and attitude, so you're correct on that one. But, this is not the first time Helen herself has been unacceptably vile towards other people, and after the first, possibly second time, it then stops becoming a behaviour problem, but actually shows a very pathetic immature personality trait in that specific person. She has been banned for this very reason from other websites for being very nasty and malicious against other members.

To wish someone had never been born is effectively wishing someone dead, to me, no matter what anyone has done to that person, that is disgustingly cruel, vile, and completely unacceptable. She is showing her personality throughout this thread, and has shown it in the same manner on many many occasions on RYL in the past, this is not simply a "behaviour problem", or a "one off", this is an ongoing thing with Helen.
She, as a person, a human being, craves all of this. She craves the attention, the drama, the spitefullness, the nastyness. Without it, she is nothing. She has nothing to cry about, nothing to moan about, nothing to shout or scream about, nothing to get her little groupies onto others about (during my fallout with her, i had many people send me abusive messages through facebook, one saying very very nasty things about my daughter - it was so vile i won't even go into it). Behaviour is, of course, part of someones personality, but this is exactly what she is like, and always has been like ever since people have found out the truth about her. If there was nothing to hide, there would be no need to be on the defense, in my opinion atleast, and there is certainly no need to wish someone dead - on there bloody birthday, that's SICK.

I wasn't going to get involved, but my name was dragged into this, and it wasn't necessary for me to be dragged into it. I could have ripped her a new one in my comment, but i went about it as tactfully as possible. I kept my cool, i didn't swear, i merely said it how it is.

Of course, i appreciate the fact you stepped in TC, however, the reason many people have come here from RYL is because of the restrictions due to so many rules on the websites. You can't breathe for lack of rules & regulations. However, despite you running a fantastic forum here, i do believe some rules & regulations should be put into place in situations like this. To wish another member dead on RYL would instantly have put them on a ban from the website for a specific amount of time - it would have been deemed unacceptable, infact, knowing how the moderators work on that website i wouldn't be surprised if it would turn into a permanent ban from the website altogether, which is why Helen decided to attack Emma here, because she knows she won't be punished for her actions. A good telling off will not deter Helen from doing this in the future.

You've said to me on numerous occasions when i was a regular member here, to branch out and use other boards, am i correct?
But how do you expect Emma, Ally & Myself to branch out onto other boards when we will instantly be attacked by a jumped up child, who will recieve nothing more than a telling off? She will still recieve welcoming messages on her journal, she will still be "apart of the family", and how you can accept someone like that into this community is beyond me.

I'm no angel, but i have never ever wished anyone dead, i would never even dream of doing such a thing to anyone, that is a disgusting thing to say. I've caused my fair share of drama on here (in private for the most part minus one incident, might i add), but all have been out of frustration due to the lack of rules put in place on here. I would feel much safer if some sort of points system was put into place here, and i'm sure others would too.

Ally, Emma & even myself wish to cause no atmosphere on HopeScope, my frustrations towards Helen remained in my journal, and are now essentially deleted. None of us wish to make other members feel uncomfortable here, what would be the point in that? Ally & Emma are the sweetest people i know, they joined here through my recommendation, and i never recommend websites, so despite any drama or problems i have had here, i wish there time on here to be as peaceful as possible, and i will continue to look out for there wellfair until they feel as safe and comfortable as possible. I don't want other members here turning against them because of this, it just wouldn't be fair, and despite what i said about Helen, i always said that it was always upto everyone else to make there own individual opinions on her, some had already formed there opinions before i'd even muttered a word, others are more leniant and patient and wish to keep the peace to sit on the fence - which is perfectly fine.
I just don't want Emma & Ally, the essential "newbies" of HopeScope, to be pushed out, simply because they may be seen as "troublemakers", which they aren't. Get to know them before you make judgements guys, that's all i'm saying.

Peace Out.